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Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.23 23:10:00 - [1] I recently discovered that ANOTER skillbook was stolen from me by CCP, first it was salvage drone operation and now they have taken starbase tactical officer away. This skill was useless until it was removed from the market, and the description was replaced with ôSkill at using starbase weapon systems. Allows control of one array per level. Arrays must be placed outside of the forcefield to be controlled.ö The same as starbase defense management however it had much lower skill requirements. I would like to know if there are any other skillbooks that CCP plans on stealing so I can sell them before they are taken. Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.23 23:14:00 - [2] Originally by: forsight i dot quite get waht you mean. probly the cider.. they stole skillbooks from your hanger? from my giant secure can in my corp hanger. Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.23 23:23:00 - [3] Originally by: Entity This is now Starbase Defense Management no, Starbase defense was added in, while i still had my starbase tactical officer. if the skill had replaced the other then the patch notes would have said "skill beign switched to.." instead of "skill being added..." Starbase tactical wasent mentioned in any of the patch notes. Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.24 03:51:00 - [4] Originally by: Entity Originally by: Jesters Knight Originally by: Entity This is now Starbase Defense Management no, Starbase defense was added in, while i still had my starbase tactical officer. if the skill had replaced the other then the patch notes would have said "skill beign switched to.." instead of "skill being added..." Starbase tactical wasent mentioned in any of the patch notes. Fine, don't believe me.... Static data from ~8 months ago (machonet version 139) typeID:3373, groupID:266, typeName:Starbase Tactical Officer Static data from today (machonet version 173) typeID:3373, groupID:266, typeName:Starbase Defense Management Still you are missing the point... the fact isnt that it was changed, the fact is that CCP keeps doing this to the players without telling them. and another thing, a GM disagrees with you, specificaly. i cant put the words in here because it would be EULA violation. but i will tell you this, the skillbook was REMOVED for operational reasons and that book (starbase tactical officer) had no function in the game. now, your comments have further helped to prove the point. CCP dosent know what they are doing, and they dont care about how they treat there customers. now, if you can point out in the patch notes where either they state: 1. they were removing Starbase tactical officer or 2. they say they are changing it to starbase defense managemnt jsut because somethign has the same id dosent mean it is the same thing. when something is removed it is a blank spot in the database. and do you know what happens to blank spots? they get filled!! just becuase the ID is the same dosent make it the same thing. Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.24 03:52:00 - [5] and as you can see by the database issues, they need all the help they can get with ID's being reused as they keep filling there colums up in the DB Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.24 04:19:00 - [6] Originally by: Tortun Nahme shocked that no one has beat me to this but Can I have your stuff? nobody else said it because nobody said they were leaving. at least they should give the trolls basic elementry level education Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.24 04:23:00 - [7] Originally by: Culdees Originally by: Jesters Knight and as you can see by the database issues, they need all the help they can get with ID's being reused as they keep filling there colums up in the DB last night i had a hell of a time trying to decode which skillbooks to buy with the database all messed up. i saw the price of a gallente cruiser skill book was 450M and the battleship was 36,000. hehe, but when you go to the market details, you could see the correct name. you could be buying anything under any name last night. yea, with the issues of the DB right now anyone who depends on the datadump for real info is asking for trouble. Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.24 04:30:00 - [8] Originally by: Apostrophe Man Originally by: Jesters Knight CCP dosent know what they are doing, and they dont care about how they treat there customers. Their: Plural possessive. "I went to their house for dinner" There: Preposition. "The thing you were looking for is over there" APOSTROPHE MAN TO THE RESCUE! thanks, there/their has never been my strong suit, thats why i stick to database administration, you dont have to spell right, just consistant Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.24 04:35:00 - [9] Originally by: Smokey Joe Well, I was training Starbase Tactical Officer level 5 before the patch and now I'm training Starbase Defense Management level 5 after the patch. Sounds like a replacement to me. Originally by: Jesters Knight Originally by: Entity This is now Starbase Defense Management no, Starbase defense was added in, while i still had my starbase tactical officer. if the skill had replaced the other then the patch notes would have said "skill beign switched to.." instead of "skill being added..." Starbase tactical wasent mentioned in any of the patch notes. according to the GM and to the patch notes it was removed. according to gameplay it was changed out. Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.24 04:44:00 - [10] Originally by: Frug Gettin' a tad worked up over a couple skillbooks ain't ya? no, im getting worked up about CCP doing stealth updates and stealing from there players. i personally didnt loose any money, however i did see several of the skillbooks going for sale for the same reason i held onto mine, to controll 5 more starbase structures, some of them were on sale for as much as 400 mil. the issue here isnt the skillbook, the issue here is CCP Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.24 05:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Corwain Damn, that sucks. I'm glad I didn't go to all the trouble to get salvage drone operation now. Skill collectors everywhere shake your fist at CCP! BTW I played a game the Halo 3 Beta with you. Your gamertag is ThanatosandNyx. yes it is (or was untill i ran out of money ) i have you on my friends list still so when the real game comes out we can kill some noobs, i mean my friends. Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.24 05:18:00 - [12] Originally by: WhitePhantom I have 3 salvage drone operation skillbooks, if yours was removed, then you should petition to get them back. You could also just buy it from me for a moderate price :lol: no, they were removed, but the playerbase got ***ed they removed the skillbook (because they announced it) and they were given back about a week after they were removed. Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane* (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.24 06:13:00 - [13] Originally by: X99 Z990 What i dont understand is why does it matter if they tell you or not. They changed it, why whine about it? Because thats all youre really doing here. because i dont want to have something important removed without warning. the item itself dosent matter, it is simply an example, the meathods CCP is using more and more is what bothers me. if you choose not to worry about it thats your choice. Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.24 16:00:00 - [14] Edited by: Jesters Knight on 24/06/2007 16:02:33 Thanks hammer, if the GM had said that to begin with then there wouldnt have been any problems. and to the people saying i just wanted to scalp, thats not true, i wouldnt have sold it even if i knew it was goign to be changed (i would have however trained it with the lower skill requirements) Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.24 16:06:00 - [15] Originally by: oDDiTy V2 NOBODY CARES and yet you took the time to reply, thank you (and i think that if you had realized the true intent of this topic you would care, but you dont so you dont.) Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.27 13:24:00 - [16] Originally by: NightF0x o.O...still looking for the point of this thread, anyone seen it? The point is that GM's dotn know what is going on in there own game. Originally by: Nyphur Any chance that a system could be put in place to help GMs look up a knowledge base of facts before telling a player something that could be wrong? It'd solve a good number of problems with GMs giving incorrect information as players should be able to assume that what a GM tells them is correct. what a GM says should be correct, and it should be the same answer no matter what GM you ask. we shouldnt have to post a whine thread to get a DEV response to an issue that a GM should know about. (currently ****ing and whining on the forum is the only way to get a DEV to tell you what is really going on as the GM's dont know and the patch notes are incorrect) Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane* (lets see if the webserver holds)
Jesters Knight Eclipse Enterprises Empire Research	Posted - 2007.06.27 15:35:00 - [17] Originally by: Cheunger oh ffs, get over it. You got your dev response. Now move on. I read this thread. That's how bored I am at work. lol i dont think you understand, i have been over it since the dev reply. im jsut as bored at work as you are.... Highsec POS's Skip the wait and research in the fast lane (lets see if the webserver holds)

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